From AFP
Mr Obama views Guantanamo, which conjures up images of water-boarding and other alleged torture, as a prime symbol of Bush-era war on terror excess that only serves as a recruiting tool for Al-Qaeda.
[White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told CNN's State of the Union program on Sunday] "Are they willing to listen to others in the national security arena that have told us and will tell them and have, quite frankly, told the public that Al-Qaeda recruits young people to do harm, to try to blow up airplanes, to blow up themselves and kill others, they use that [Guantanamo Bay detention camp] as a recruiting tool?"
Source: AFP
Comments: Guantanamo is being used as a lame excuse for terrorism by Islamic terrorists and their liberal and left-wing apologists.
Why don't these liberals and left-wingers fight the Islamic terrorist lies and excuses, instead of giving in and trying to shut down Guantanamo that saved lives.
The real reason Obama and the liberal-left attack Guantanamo is to smear George W Bush for ideological reasons (political reasons) and paint him in a negative light, in order to make themselves look good (Bush and his supporters bad. We, his opponents, are good.), when in fact they are being naive and morally bigoted. They only care about terrorists and dangerous criminals. Not about innocent people and victims.
The real reason Islamists attack Guantanamo is because they hate any strong action being taken against them and to portray such strong actions as bad, so that only ineffective actions will be taken against them.
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UK to lessen some anti-terror laws, reviewing others
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Monday, December 27, 2010
Sunday, December 19, 2010
WikiLeaked UK cable: Distorted Muslim view of life-world, blame game, double speak, 'moral equivalence' and, left-wing and media incite-excuse terrorism
Reference ID: 06LONDON5958
Created: 2006-08-14 17:05
Released: 2010-12-13 21:09
Classification: CONFIDENTIAL
Origin: Embassy London
¶1. (C) SUMMARY: Frustrated by the bruising that their community has taken after 24 UK-born Muslims were arrested in connection with the recently-thwarted air terrorist plot (reftels), prominent British Muslims sent an open letter to PM Tony Blair August 12 blaming his policy on Iraq and the Middle East for fueling extremism and putting British citizens at risk. HMG reacted angrily to the letter; in a series of meetings with Muslim community leaders August 14, government ministers planned to demand that the Muslim community itself do more to root out terrorists in its midst.
(U) BRITISH MUSLIMS ANGRY
¶4. (U) Prominent British Muslim leaders sent an open letter to PM Tony Blair August 12 stating that his policy on Iraq and the Middle East offers “ammunition to extremists” and puts British lives “at increased risk.” Appearing as a full page advertisement in newspapers August 13, the letter was signed by three of the four Muslim MPs, three of the five Muslim members of the House of Lords, and 38 Muslim organizations (for full text and list of signatories see para 10). Although the letter states specifically that “attacking civilians is never justified,” its signatories have used this sentence as a double-edged sword in defending the letter publicly, in effect equating civilian deaths in Lebanon with potential civilian deaths from terrorism. As MCB Secretary General Dr. Mohammed Abdul Bari told the press, “As Muslims, we condemn attacks on civilians wherever they happen. Civilians in the UK, the Middle East, and the rest of the world should all enjoy protection.”
(U) HMG ANGRY
¶5. (U) HMG reacted sharply to the letter. A spokesman for PM Blair (currently on holiday in Barbados), noting that al-Qaida terrorist attacks began well before Iraq, said, “To imply al-Qaida is driven by an honest disagreement over foreign policy is a mistake.” Home Secretary John Reid told the BBC, “I’m not going to question the motives of anyone who has signed this letter, but I think it is a dreadful
LONDON 00005958 002 OF 003
misjudgment if we believe the foreign policy of this country should be shaped in part, or in whole, under the threat of terrorist activity if we do not have a foreign policy with which the terrorists happen to agree.” Transport Secretary Douglas Alexander echoed these sentiments, saying “No government worth its salt should allow its foreign policy to be dictated to under the threat of terrorism.” Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said it would be “the gravest
SIPDIS possible error” to blame foreign policy for the threat of terrorism. “This is part of a distorted view of the world, a distorted view of life,” she said. “Let’s put the blame where it belongs: with people who wantonly want to take innocent lives.” Other ministers called the letter “facile,” “dangerous,” and “foolish.”
¶6. (U) Communities Secretary Ruth Kelly, along with ministers from her department and the Home Office, was scheduled to meet with representatives of various Muslim groups August 14. HMG has made clear that one message officials will deliver in these meetings is that Muslim leaders must do more to tackle extremism inside their community.
(U) ELEMENTS OF UNREST
¶8. (C) Also on August 14, law enforcement officials were scheduled to meet leaders from seven communities - Newham, Hackney, Barking, Dagenham, and Waltham Forest in London, plus Birmingham and High Wycombe - where they judged the possibility for unrest might lead to street violence.
¶9. (C) COMMENT: Since 7/7, HMG has invested considerable time and resources in engaging the British Muslim community. The current tensions demonstrate just how little progress has been made. At the same time, the Muslim community’s reaction to the arrests of 24 of its own sons - a knee-jerk reaction blaming HMG - shows that its leaders too have far to go. That said, the Muslim community is not the only element in Britain blaming HMG’s foreign policy for inciting radical elements; the left in particular but even the mainstream press has expressed the belief, reportedly wide-spread, that homegrown terrorism is an “inevitable” response to the UK’s involvement in Iraq and reluctance to call for an “immediate ceasefire” in the Middle East. HMG’s rather heated response to the letter is undoubtedly aimed at swaying broader opinion.
(U) FULL TEXT OF LETTER TO PRIME MINISTER BLAIR
¶10. (U) Begin text of letter:
Prime Minister, As British Muslims we urge you to do more to fight against all those who target civilians with violence, whenever and wherever that happens.
It is our view that current British government policy risks putting civilians at increased risk both in the UK and abroad.
To combat terror the government has focused extensively on
LONDON 00005958 003 OF 003
domestic legislation. While some of this will have an impact, the government must not ignore the role of its foreign policy.
The debacle of Iraq and now the failure to do more to secure an immediate end to the attacks on civilians in the Middle East not only increases the risk to ordinary people in that region, it is also ammunition to extremists who threaten us all.
Attacking civilians is never justified. This message is a global one. We urge the Prime Minister to redouble his efforts to tackle terror and extremism and change our foreign policy to show the world that we value the lives of civilians wherever they live and whatever their religion.
Such a move would make us all safer.
(Signed) Sadiq Khan MP, Shahid Malik MP, Mohammed Sarwar MP, Lord Patel of Blackburn, Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, Baronness Uddin, Association of Muslim Schools, British Muslim Forum, Bolton Mosques Council for Community Care, Confederation of Sunni Mosques, Midlands Council of Nigerian Muslim Organizations, Council of Mosques - London and Southern Counties, Council of Mosques Tower Hamlets, Da’awtul Islam UK and Eire, Federation of Muslim Organizations (Leicestershire), Federation of Students Islamic Societies (FOSIS), Indian Muslim Federation, Islamic Forum Europe, Islam Society of Britain, Jama’at Ahle Sunnat UK, Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK, Jamiat-e-Ulema Britain, Lancashire Council of Mosques, Muslim Association of Britain, Muslim Council of Britain, Muslim Council of Wales, Muslim Doctors and Dentists Association, Muslim Parliament, Muslim Solidarity Committee, Muslim Students Society UK and Eire, Muslim Welfare House (London), Muslim Women Society (MWS), Muslim Women’s Association, Northern Ireland Muslim Family Association (NIMFA), Sussex Muslim Society, The Council of European Jamaats, UK Action Committee on Islamic Affairs, UK Islamic Mission, UK Turkish Islamic Association, World Federation of KSIMC, World Islamic Mission, Young Muslim Organization UK, Young Muslim Sisters UK, Young Muslims UK.
End text of letter.
Visit London’s Classified Website: http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/eur/london/index. cfm Tuttle
Source: WikiLeaks.ch (Switzerland)
Comments: Old news but this is an excellent honest cable. Whoever wrote it should be promoted. Good to see that at lest some in the US State Department are sane and have a clear view of reality. Maybe there is still some hope left.
Some previous similar or related stories:
Deadly dysfunctional Muslim culture, past, present, future, and why democracy and modernization fail [Blame game throughout history.]
Turky's Islamist PM Erdogan 'hates' Israel on religious grounds, Foreign Minister Davutoglu wants influence in Balkans like in Ottoman empire days [Excuses are just covers? Exposed?]
ISLAMIC TERROR 101: A case study in race-card, victim-card, blaming victims & isolated explanations, using UK 'anti-terror' police John Larkin [A blame game and left-wing group Unite Against Fascism is against anti-Islamism]
$2 billion more in US military aid for a Pakistan that doesn't fight terror [Not fighting terror]
Hugo Chavez and Iran in an Unholy alliance [Left-wing - Islamist Axis]
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Created: 2006-08-14 17:05
Released: 2010-12-13 21:09
Classification: CONFIDENTIAL
Origin: Embassy London
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SUBJECT: (U) TENSIONS RISE BETWEEN BRITISH MUSLIMS AND HMG
IN THE WAKE OF THWARTED TERRORIST ATTACKREF: A) LONDON 5921 B) LONDON 5884
Classified By: PolMinCouns Maura Connelly, Reasons 1.4 (B, D)¶1. (C) SUMMARY: Frustrated by the bruising that their community has taken after 24 UK-born Muslims were arrested in connection with the recently-thwarted air terrorist plot (reftels), prominent British Muslims sent an open letter to PM Tony Blair August 12 blaming his policy on Iraq and the Middle East for fueling extremism and putting British citizens at risk. HMG reacted angrily to the letter; in a series of meetings with Muslim community leaders August 14, government ministers planned to demand that the Muslim community itself do more to root out terrorists in its midst.
(U) BRITISH MUSLIMS ANGRY
¶4. (U) Prominent British Muslim leaders sent an open letter to PM Tony Blair August 12 stating that his policy on Iraq and the Middle East offers “ammunition to extremists” and puts British lives “at increased risk.” Appearing as a full page advertisement in newspapers August 13, the letter was signed by three of the four Muslim MPs, three of the five Muslim members of the House of Lords, and 38 Muslim organizations (for full text and list of signatories see para 10). Although the letter states specifically that “attacking civilians is never justified,” its signatories have used this sentence as a double-edged sword in defending the letter publicly, in effect equating civilian deaths in Lebanon with potential civilian deaths from terrorism. As MCB Secretary General Dr. Mohammed Abdul Bari told the press, “As Muslims, we condemn attacks on civilians wherever they happen. Civilians in the UK, the Middle East, and the rest of the world should all enjoy protection.”
(U) HMG ANGRY
¶5. (U) HMG reacted sharply to the letter. A spokesman for PM Blair (currently on holiday in Barbados), noting that al-Qaida terrorist attacks began well before Iraq, said, “To imply al-Qaida is driven by an honest disagreement over foreign policy is a mistake.” Home Secretary John Reid told the BBC, “I’m not going to question the motives of anyone who has signed this letter, but I think it is a dreadful
LONDON 00005958 002 OF 003
misjudgment if we believe the foreign policy of this country should be shaped in part, or in whole, under the threat of terrorist activity if we do not have a foreign policy with which the terrorists happen to agree.” Transport Secretary Douglas Alexander echoed these sentiments, saying “No government worth its salt should allow its foreign policy to be dictated to under the threat of terrorism.” Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said it would be “the gravest
SIPDIS possible error” to blame foreign policy for the threat of terrorism. “This is part of a distorted view of the world, a distorted view of life,” she said. “Let’s put the blame where it belongs: with people who wantonly want to take innocent lives.” Other ministers called the letter “facile,” “dangerous,” and “foolish.”
¶6. (U) Communities Secretary Ruth Kelly, along with ministers from her department and the Home Office, was scheduled to meet with representatives of various Muslim groups August 14. HMG has made clear that one message officials will deliver in these meetings is that Muslim leaders must do more to tackle extremism inside their community.
(U) ELEMENTS OF UNREST
¶8. (C) Also on August 14, law enforcement officials were scheduled to meet leaders from seven communities - Newham, Hackney, Barking, Dagenham, and Waltham Forest in London, plus Birmingham and High Wycombe - where they judged the possibility for unrest might lead to street violence.
¶9. (C) COMMENT: Since 7/7, HMG has invested considerable time and resources in engaging the British Muslim community. The current tensions demonstrate just how little progress has been made. At the same time, the Muslim community’s reaction to the arrests of 24 of its own sons - a knee-jerk reaction blaming HMG - shows that its leaders too have far to go. That said, the Muslim community is not the only element in Britain blaming HMG’s foreign policy for inciting radical elements; the left in particular but even the mainstream press has expressed the belief, reportedly wide-spread, that homegrown terrorism is an “inevitable” response to the UK’s involvement in Iraq and reluctance to call for an “immediate ceasefire” in the Middle East. HMG’s rather heated response to the letter is undoubtedly aimed at swaying broader opinion.
(U) FULL TEXT OF LETTER TO PRIME MINISTER BLAIR
¶10. (U) Begin text of letter:
Prime Minister, As British Muslims we urge you to do more to fight against all those who target civilians with violence, whenever and wherever that happens.
It is our view that current British government policy risks putting civilians at increased risk both in the UK and abroad.
To combat terror the government has focused extensively on
LONDON 00005958 003 OF 003
domestic legislation. While some of this will have an impact, the government must not ignore the role of its foreign policy.
The debacle of Iraq and now the failure to do more to secure an immediate end to the attacks on civilians in the Middle East not only increases the risk to ordinary people in that region, it is also ammunition to extremists who threaten us all.
Attacking civilians is never justified. This message is a global one. We urge the Prime Minister to redouble his efforts to tackle terror and extremism and change our foreign policy to show the world that we value the lives of civilians wherever they live and whatever their religion.
Such a move would make us all safer.
(Signed) Sadiq Khan MP, Shahid Malik MP, Mohammed Sarwar MP, Lord Patel of Blackburn, Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, Baronness Uddin, Association of Muslim Schools, British Muslim Forum, Bolton Mosques Council for Community Care, Confederation of Sunni Mosques, Midlands Council of Nigerian Muslim Organizations, Council of Mosques - London and Southern Counties, Council of Mosques Tower Hamlets, Da’awtul Islam UK and Eire, Federation of Muslim Organizations (Leicestershire), Federation of Students Islamic Societies (FOSIS), Indian Muslim Federation, Islamic Forum Europe, Islam Society of Britain, Jama’at Ahle Sunnat UK, Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK, Jamiat-e-Ulema Britain, Lancashire Council of Mosques, Muslim Association of Britain, Muslim Council of Britain, Muslim Council of Wales, Muslim Doctors and Dentists Association, Muslim Parliament, Muslim Solidarity Committee, Muslim Students Society UK and Eire, Muslim Welfare House (London), Muslim Women Society (MWS), Muslim Women’s Association, Northern Ireland Muslim Family Association (NIMFA), Sussex Muslim Society, The Council of European Jamaats, UK Action Committee on Islamic Affairs, UK Islamic Mission, UK Turkish Islamic Association, World Federation of KSIMC, World Islamic Mission, Young Muslim Organization UK, Young Muslim Sisters UK, Young Muslims UK.
End text of letter.
Visit London’s Classified Website: http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/eur/london/index. cfm Tuttle
Source: WikiLeaks.ch (Switzerland)
Comments: Old news but this is an excellent honest cable. Whoever wrote it should be promoted. Good to see that at lest some in the US State Department are sane and have a clear view of reality. Maybe there is still some hope left.
Some previous similar or related stories:
Deadly dysfunctional Muslim culture, past, present, future, and why democracy and modernization fail [Blame game throughout history.]
Turky's Islamist PM Erdogan 'hates' Israel on religious grounds, Foreign Minister Davutoglu wants influence in Balkans like in Ottoman empire days [Excuses are just covers? Exposed?]
ISLAMIC TERROR 101: A case study in race-card, victim-card, blaming victims & isolated explanations, using UK 'anti-terror' police John Larkin [A blame game and left-wing group Unite Against Fascism is against anti-Islamism]
$2 billion more in US military aid for a Pakistan that doesn't fight terror [Not fighting terror]
Hugo Chavez and Iran in an Unholy alliance [Left-wing - Islamist Axis]
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Tuesday, December 7, 2010
Conspiracy theories and blame games: South Sinai governor, Mohamed Abdul Fadil Shousha says Mossad could be behind Sharm el-Sheikh shark attacks
Last week, 'oceanic white tip sharks mauled three Russians and a Ukrainian tourist'2 'off the coast of Sharm el-Sheikh.'2 'In one of those attacks, a shark bit off an elderly woman's hand and tore off another woman's leg.'2
After those attacks authorities hunted down two sharks and reopened the beach deeming it safe.1
'However, an Egyptian NGO warned on Saturday that at least one of the sharks behind the attacks was still at large.'1
On Sunday an elderly3 German woman tourist snorkeler died after a shark 'mauled her thigh and arm'.1
According to AFP, 'South Sinai governor Mohammed Shosha has said the sharks could have turned frenzied after a ship transporting livestock dumped dead sheep into the sea, while marine experts said overfishing may have forced them closer to shore.'1
'Environmentalists warned that the string of recent attacks is likely a result of the Red Sea's declining ecosystem. Gabar, the head of the CDWS [Chamber of Diving and Water Sports], said he's seen a jump in the number of sharks off Egypt's Red Sea coast, which he said could be caused by overfishing, which could force sharks to swim closer to shore in search of food.'2
BBC reports that,
Sources: 1. AFP, 2. AP, 3. BBC
Comments: Conspiracy theories and blame games in the Muslim world are nothing new and reaches up to the highest levels of society.
And as usual, such beliefs are followed by further beliefs of being persecuted (victim-card) and visions of the grandeur and supremacy of Islam.
This problem is made worse by politically correct censors who censor any attempt to expose it, while feeding the fire with politically correct lies that praise those in the wrong as being good, right and wonderful, and condemn legitimate criticisms as 'hate', 'bigotry' and 'Islamophobia' (worse things said and done by the other side are ignored).
A few days ago this site reported the revelation from US embassy cables leaked by WikiLeaks that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was susceptible to Islamist conspiracy theories - some of them pulled from the web. The following quote is from that story.
AFP reports other cables as saying,
Walter Rodgers, a former senior international correspondent for CNN said,
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Turky's Islamist PM Erdogan 'hates' Israel on religious grounds, Foreign Minister Davutoglu wants influence in Balkans like in Ottoman empire days
Deadly dysfunctional Muslim culture, past, present, future, and why democracy and modernization fail
(Bad) Muslim psychology: The blame game
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After those attacks authorities hunted down two sharks and reopened the beach deeming it safe.1
'However, an Egyptian NGO warned on Saturday that at least one of the sharks behind the attacks was still at large.'1
On Sunday an elderly3 German woman tourist snorkeler died after a shark 'mauled her thigh and arm'.1
According to AFP, 'South Sinai governor Mohammed Shosha has said the sharks could have turned frenzied after a ship transporting livestock dumped dead sheep into the sea, while marine experts said overfishing may have forced them closer to shore.'1
'Environmentalists warned that the string of recent attacks is likely a result of the Red Sea's declining ecosystem. Gabar, the head of the CDWS [Chamber of Diving and Water Sports], said he's seen a jump in the number of sharks off Egypt's Red Sea coast, which he said could be caused by overfishing, which could force sharks to swim closer to shore in search of food.'2
BBC reports that,
Conspiracy theories are always popular in the Middle East, with unlikely suggestions often made that troubles in Arab countries could be caused by Mossad agents.3An official Egyptian news site reported South Sinai governor, Mohamed Abdul Fadil Shousha, as saying3
Rumours had circulated in Egypt that there could be an Israeli connection to this unusual spate of Red Sea shark attacks.3
"What is being said about the Mossad throwing the deadly shark [in the sea] to hit tourism in Egypt is not out of the question, but it needs time to confirm"3
Sources: 1. AFP, 2. AP, 3. BBC
Comments: Conspiracy theories and blame games in the Muslim world are nothing new and reaches up to the highest levels of society.
And as usual, such beliefs are followed by further beliefs of being persecuted (victim-card) and visions of the grandeur and supremacy of Islam.
This problem is made worse by politically correct censors who censor any attempt to expose it, while feeding the fire with politically correct lies that praise those in the wrong as being good, right and wonderful, and condemn legitimate criticisms as 'hate', 'bigotry' and 'Islamophobia' (worse things said and done by the other side are ignored).
A few days ago this site reported the revelation from US embassy cables leaked by WikiLeaks that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was susceptible to Islamist conspiracy theories - some of them pulled from the web. The following quote is from that story.
AFP reports other cables as saying,
Erdogan lacks "vision" and "analytic depth", reads "minimally", ignores foreign ministry expertise and is guided by an "iron ring of sycophantic (but contemptuous) advisors... which partially explains... his susceptibility to Islamist theories."As for the blame game, here are some quotes from two previous articles which can be found here and here.
He is said to rely on "his charisma, instincts, and the filterings of advisors who pull conspiracy theories off the Web or are lost in neo-Ottoman Islamist fantasies, e.g., Islamist foreign policy advisor... Ahmet Davutoglu."
A cable signed by the US ambassador in January 2010 says Davutoglu wants to reassert on the Balkans the influence the Ottoman empire used to exert on the region.
Walter Rodgers, a former senior international correspondent for CNN said,
Bernard Lewis, the renowned Princeton scholar of Islam, has called attention to the Arab tendency to play “the blame game.”And Political science teacher Houchang Hassan-yari, of Canada's Royal Military College said,
He notes Arabs traditionally blamed the Mongols, the Ottoman Turks, the colonial powers, and now the Jews and the Americans for everything that has gone awry
it is Tehran's standard practice to finger "outside forces and outside enemies for everything bad that goes on inside the country."
Some previous similar or related stories:
Turky's Islamist PM Erdogan 'hates' Israel on religious grounds, Foreign Minister Davutoglu wants influence in Balkans like in Ottoman empire days
Deadly dysfunctional Muslim culture, past, present, future, and why democracy and modernization fail
(Bad) Muslim psychology: The blame game
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Tuesday, November 30, 2010
Turky's Islamist PM Erdogan 'hates' Israel on religious grounds, Foreign Minister Davutoglu wants influence in Balkans like in Ottoman empire days
US embassy cables leaked by WikiLeak say that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan "simply hates Israel" on religious grounds.
A cable reports Israeli ambassador to Turkey, Gabby Levy, as saying "He's a fundamentalist. He hates us religiously and his hatred is spreading."
It said, "Our discussions with contacts both inside and outside of the Turkish government... tend to confirm Levy's thesis that Erdogan simply hates Israel".
AFP reports other cables as saying,
Sources: AFP
Comment: This is nothing surprising. Conspiracy theories are rife in the Muslim world, as is expected where lack of freedom hinders rational inquiry and honest debate. In Turkey, questioning the Armenian genocide is discouraged and even persecuted, and in Iran, over five million web sites are blocked (although IranNazi.ir site wasn't) and university courses have been censored to confirm with Islam.
Terrorists and extremists want a global caliphate and are continuing the unfinished conquests with the jihads started 1,400 years ago by Mohammed himself.A bit unfair that they are saying very un-PC things like "sycophantic (but contemptuous)" while everyone else is prevented from being as frank and honest by the PC censors.
Would be very interesting to see what the Turkish and the rest really think too in reality. What kind of conspiracy theories they believe and what fantasies they have.
This also shows clearly once again that Islamists and terrorists simply hates for religious reasons and not for this or that issue, as they always say to excuse their hate, and as is always believed by naive wishful thinkers and fueled by PC fascists with agendas.
Previous similar or related stories:
Kosovo national, Ilir Rrecaj, accused of involvement in killing Serbs to harvest human organs, indicted by EU for unrelated human kidney trafficking [Turkish doctor Yusuf Sonmez was involved]
Muslim violence and discrimination causing Christians exodus from Middle East to be discussed at Vatican synod [Turkey was mentioned]
A cable reports Israeli ambassador to Turkey, Gabby Levy, as saying "He's a fundamentalist. He hates us religiously and his hatred is spreading."
It said, "Our discussions with contacts both inside and outside of the Turkish government... tend to confirm Levy's thesis that Erdogan simply hates Israel".
AFP reports other cables as saying,
Erdogan lacks "vision" and "analytic depth", reads "minimally", ignores foreign ministry expertise and is guided by an "iron ring of sycophantic (but contemptuous) advisors... which partially explains... his susceptibility to Islamist theories."
He is said to rely on "his charisma, instincts, and the filterings of advisors who pull conspiracy theories off the Web or are lost in neo-Ottoman Islamist fantasies, e.g., Islamist foreign policy advisor... Ahmet Davutoglu."
A cable signed by the US ambassador in January 2010 says Davutoglu wants to reassert on the Balkans the influence the Ottoman empire used to exert on the region.
Sources: AFP
Comment: This is nothing surprising. Conspiracy theories are rife in the Muslim world, as is expected where lack of freedom hinders rational inquiry and honest debate. In Turkey, questioning the Armenian genocide is discouraged and even persecuted, and in Iran, over five million web sites are blocked (although IranNazi.ir site wasn't) and university courses have been censored to confirm with Islam.
Terrorists and extremists want a global caliphate and are continuing the unfinished conquests with the jihads started 1,400 years ago by Mohammed himself.A bit unfair that they are saying very un-PC things like "sycophantic (but contemptuous)" while everyone else is prevented from being as frank and honest by the PC censors.
Would be very interesting to see what the Turkish and the rest really think too in reality. What kind of conspiracy theories they believe and what fantasies they have.
This also shows clearly once again that Islamists and terrorists simply hates for religious reasons and not for this or that issue, as they always say to excuse their hate, and as is always believed by naive wishful thinkers and fueled by PC fascists with agendas.
Previous similar or related stories:
Kosovo national, Ilir Rrecaj, accused of involvement in killing Serbs to harvest human organs, indicted by EU for unrelated human kidney trafficking [Turkish doctor Yusuf Sonmez was involved]
Muslim violence and discrimination causing Christians exodus from Middle East to be discussed at Vatican synod [Turkey was mentioned]
Bradley Manning, alleged WikiLeak's US files source was a homosexual defined by his sexuality, opinionated about politics, religion and secularism
World Net Daily reports the following citing a New York Times article
Private Mannding, 22, was 'defined by his homosexuality from a young age.'
a place [Cambridge, Mass.] where he fit in, part of a social circle that included politically motivated computer hackers and his boyfriend, a self-described drag queen.
And now some of those friends say they wonder whether his desperation for acceptance – or delusions of grandeur – may have led him to disclose [the secret files]
[When he was at school Manning was]
opinionated beyond his years about politics, religion and even about keeping religion out of politics.
refused to recite the parts of the Pledge of Allegiance that referred to God or do homework assignments that involved the Scriptures
Sources: World Net Daily (Note: The World Net Daily article cites an article from the New York Times)
Comment: Very unsurprising. Angry, naive or misguided people, whether homosexual or straight, men or women, liberals, left-wingers, racial or ethnic minorities, politically correct wishful thinkers and others like them have an irrational desire to help Islamic extremists and terrorists, who stand for everything that they claim they are against.
Wonder if Manning or WikiLeak might have held back some material, such as on homosexuals, leftists, Muslims and Islam, not for security reasons but for PC considerations.
Manning sounds similar to Zachary Adam Chesser who has pleaded guilty to terror charges in the US. An article on him published on this site reported that 'A high school friend Drew Harrington said Chester was "always trying to find himself" and "just wanted to be part of something."'
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Jews want resources and to rule the world, some turned to apes, death for 'gays' and how to chop of thief's limbs taught in UK Muslim weekend schools
Iranian Nazi site IranNazi.Ir unblocked by Iran’s Ministry of Culture and Islamic guidance after a brief ban
Private Mannding, 22, was 'defined by his homosexuality from a young age.'
a place [Cambridge, Mass.] where he fit in, part of a social circle that included politically motivated computer hackers and his boyfriend, a self-described drag queen.
And now some of those friends say they wonder whether his desperation for acceptance – or delusions of grandeur – may have led him to disclose [the secret files]
[When he was at school Manning was]
opinionated beyond his years about politics, religion and even about keeping religion out of politics.
refused to recite the parts of the Pledge of Allegiance that referred to God or do homework assignments that involved the Scriptures
Sources: World Net Daily (Note: The World Net Daily article cites an article from the New York Times)
Comment: Very unsurprising. Angry, naive or misguided people, whether homosexual or straight, men or women, liberals, left-wingers, racial or ethnic minorities, politically correct wishful thinkers and others like them have an irrational desire to help Islamic extremists and terrorists, who stand for everything that they claim they are against.
Wonder if Manning or WikiLeak might have held back some material, such as on homosexuals, leftists, Muslims and Islam, not for security reasons but for PC considerations.
Manning sounds similar to Zachary Adam Chesser who has pleaded guilty to terror charges in the US. An article on him published on this site reported that 'A high school friend Drew Harrington said Chester was "always trying to find himself" and "just wanted to be part of something."'
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